I am aware that in real planes most commands are made through the
conventional flight controls - however there are some operations that
simply *require* a keyboard. Fuel management, for example.

Let's say I want to fly my Baron from Boisie, Idaho to Khartoum. I have
done in-depth calculations, involving complex algorithms and in my
estimation, even if I start with full fuel, I may run out before I get to
Sudan. In this case, without a keyboard to re-establish a given fuel
level, the flight cannot continue. Looking at pictures of real planes, I
do not see any dedicated button on the panel to accomplish this function,
so I can only assume there must be a keyboard input *somewhere* - but
WHERE? I cannot see it anywhere!

Another example - on a short hop from Los Angeles (LAX) to Chicago
(ORD). Obviously fuel is no problem on this short distance, but there is
a long, boring section, after crossing the Rockies at FL370 - the
terrain levels out, and it seems to take forever to get up to the Midwest
plains and make my approach to O'hare. I would like to just skip this
whole section, but once again I find no function in the real plane
allowing me to do this. So there must be a keyboard input . . .

Please be so kind as to enlighten me. In return I will challenge
everything you say and tell you you are simply not smart enough to grasp
my algorithms. . .

Stuff $100 bills into the CD Drive and fuel comes out the USB port?

The new Baron's come with special dilithium crystal fuel
conversion units that use the Earth's static electrical
fields as a power source to synthesize gasoline in the fuel
tanks by converting the coffee as the second step in the
process.

The pilot and passengers all drink a lot of coffee in order
to extend the range. One cup of coffee makes 24 gallons of
gasoline.




"Greg Farris" > wrote in message
...
|I am aware that in real planes most commands are made
through the
| conventional flight controls - however there are some
operations that
| simply *require* a keyboard. Fuel management, for example.
|
| Let's say I want to fly my Baron from Boisie, Idaho to
Khartoum. I have
| done in-depth calculations, involving complex algorithms
and in my
| estimation, even if I start with full fuel, I may run out
before I get to
| Sudan. In this case, without a keyboard to re-establish a
given fuel
| level, the flight cannot continue. Looking at pictures of
real planes, I
| do not see any dedicated button on the panel to accomplish
this function,
| so I can only assume there must be a keyboard input
*somewhere* - but
| WHERE? I cannot see it anywhere!
|
| Another example - on a short hop from Los Angeles (LAX)
to Chicago
| (ORD). Obviously fuel is no problem on this short
distance, but there is
| a long, boring section, after crossing the Rockies at
FL370 - the
| terrain levels out, and it seems to take forever to get up
to the Midwest
| plains and make my approach to O'hare. I would like to
just skip this
| whole section, but once again I find no function in the
real plane
| allowing me to do this. So there must be a keyboard input
.. . .
|
| Please be so kind as to enlighten me. In return I will
challenge
| everything you say and tell you you are simply not smart
enough to grasp
| my algorithms. . .
|

I believe that our Aztec used to have it's keyboard in a "map tray" located
under the co-pilots panel, but since previous owners removed the map tray, I
can only assume that they discarded the keyboard. Obviously this decreased
the value of our aircraft tremendously. I have noticed remnants of the
previous "map tray/keyboard" install such as the tray rails and the power
connection and I'm hoping to one day find a replacement keyboard and data
cable on ebay. It sure would be nice to have that "auto-fuel" button.
Because our plane has injected low compression engines, we can't get the
auto fuel STC, so my only hope is to find a keyboard with the factory
installed auto fuel function. I don't think our plane came with the "fast
forward" function, I believe that was only available in the turbo models.
If you have a Baron, you might try calling Jet-Prop Conversions, I think
they sell an STC'd Fast Forward package for the Baron.
Jim

In article . com>,
says...
>
>
>Stuff $100 bills into the CD Drive and fuel comes out the USB port?
>

The cemeteries of the US are overflowing with the corpses of dangerous
pilots like yourself! The Baron is too old to have a USB port - they
certainly had their keyboards connected through RS-232 serial ports. I
have designed many such aircraft, and I must say I would feel a lot safer
if I didn't have to share the skies with people like you. Your attitude
shows you have little respect for the truth.

"Greg Farris" > wrote in message
...
> In article . com>,
> says...
>>
>>
>>Stuff $100 bills into the CD Drive and fuel comes out the USB port?
>>
>
> The cemeteries of the US are overflowing with the corpses of dangerous
> pilots like yourself! The Baron is too old to have a USB port - they
> certainly had their keyboards connected through RS-232 serial ports. I
> have designed many such aircraft, and I must say I would feel a lot safer
> if I didn't have to share the skies with people like you. Your attitude
> shows you have little respect for the truth.
>

You are correct. The correct procedure is to use a Sinclair ZX-81, enter the
program, and save it to tape. If you'll notice, this uses the same 1/8" jack
as the line-in or music-in on your intercom.

If you don't have a newer intercom, you'll need to enter the commands four
bits at a time using the Fuel Pump, Nav lights, landing light, rotating
beacon switches. ( see http://home.att.net/~n6480r/IMG_1340.JPG )

When you have the correct arrangements of switches, depress the starter
button.

Steve,

> The correct procedure is to use a Sinclair ZX-81
>

Which is the last safe computer for flying, too. I know since I worked
as cleaning personal in a Sinclair shop before they outsourced my job
to Bangalore.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

If you look at the panel for the Eclipse 500, you will see
the keyboard mounts
http://www.eclipseaviation.com/eclipse_500/avio/flight_deck.html#





"Steve Foley" > wrote in message
...
| "Greg Farris" > wrote in message
| ...
| > In article
. com>,
| > says...
| >>
| >>
| >>Stuff $100 bills into the CD Drive and fuel comes out
the USB port?
| >>
| >
| > The cemeteries of the US are overflowing with the
corpses of dangerous
| > pilots like yourself! The Baron is too old to have a
USB port - they
| > certainly had their keyboards connected through RS-232
serial ports. I
| > have designed many such aircraft, and I must say I would
feel a lot safer
| > if I didn't have to share the skies with people like
you. Your attitude
| > shows you have little respect for the truth.
| >
|
| You are correct. The correct procedure is to use a
Sinclair ZX-81, enter the
| program, and save it to tape. If you'll notice, this uses
the same 1/8" jack
| as the line-in or music-in on your intercom.
|
| If you don't have a newer intercom, you'll need to enter
the commands four
| bits at a time using the Fuel Pump, Nav lights, landing
light, rotating
| beacon switches. ( see
http://home.att.net/~n6480r/IMG_1340.JPG )
|
| When you have the correct arrangements of switches,
depress the starter
| button.
|
|

> The cemeteries of the US are overflowing with the corpses of dangerous
> pilots like yourself! The Baron is too old to have a USB port

That's why it's important to get a floppy.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

"Steve Foley" > wrote

> You are correct. The correct procedure is to use a Sinclair ZX-81, enter the
> program, and save it to tape. If you'll notice, this uses the same 1/8" jack
> as the line-in or music-in on your intercom.
>
> If you don't have a newer intercom, you'll need to enter the commands four
> bits at a time using the Fuel Pump, Nav lights, landing light, rotating
> beacon switches. ( see http://home.att.net/~n6480r/IMG_1340.JPG )
>
> When you have the correct arrangements of switches, depress the starter
> button.

NO! Don't do that. That is the back door way to fire the ejection seat!
--
Jim in NC

The input jack is next to the ejection seat trigger.

I thought it was that funnel connected to the 3 feet of
rubber hose just in front of the pilot's seat, stowed in the
"sock drawer" just in front of the spar cover.



"Viperdoc" > wrote in message
t...
| The input jack is next to the ejection seat trigger.
|
|

In flight fueling Jack. Cost 1.2 million. I would put a booster rocket. It
shortens the trip for about the same cost.
"Greg Farris" > wrote in message
...
>I am aware that in real planes most commands are made through the
> conventional flight controls - however there are some operations that
> simply *require* a keyboard. Fuel management, for example.
>
> Let's say I want to fly my Baron from Boisie, Idaho to Khartoum. I have
> done in-depth calculations, involving complex algorithms and in my
> estimation, even if I start with full fuel, I may run out before I get to
> Sudan. In this case, without a keyboard to re-establish a given fuel
> level, the flight cannot continue. Looking at pictures of real planes, I
> do not see any dedicated button on the panel to accomplish this function,
> so I can only assume there must be a keyboard input *somewhere* - but
> WHERE? I cannot see it anywhere!
>
> Another example - on a short hop from Los Angeles (LAX) to Chicago
> (ORD). Obviously fuel is no problem on this short distance, but there is
> a long, boring section, after crossing the Rockies at FL370 - the
> terrain levels out, and it seems to take forever to get up to the Midwest
> plains and make my approach to O'hare. I would like to just skip this
> whole section, but once again I find no function in the real plane
> allowing me to do this. So there must be a keyboard input . . .
>
> Please be so kind as to enlighten me. In return I will challenge
> everything you say and tell you you are simply not smart enough to grasp
> my algorithms. . .
>